I thought I’d left high school…

Apparently, myself and one of my uni friends (let’s call her P) have been labeled the “know it alls”.

The reason for this? We sit up the front, we answer questions, we ask questions, we interact with the lecturers. Apparently, making sure I read the content and semi-understand it before the lecture makes me a “know it all”.

I thought it just made me a good student?

They are also saying that we are always “jumping in” and never letting anyone else answer. Well, how about you (who is complaining) speak up and put in your comment/answer? We don’t answer straight away, we wait a little to see if anyone else is going to say something. If they don’t, that’s when we speak up.

I’m finding the differing reactions to this rather interesting though – P is several years younger than me (almost straight out school) and she just can’t seem to get past it. Every day since we were told on Thursday what was being said, she’s been ranting about how she’s going to “show those girls” by getting really good marks. Meanwhile, I was more like “oh well, haters gonna hate” and that was the end of it for me.

Except that P won’t let it go. She still seems particularly pissed off by it, and I’m not sure that’s a good thing – let what they say affect you, and you give them power. By being so determined to “show them”, she’s letting them dictate how she behaves. It’s somewhat interesting to observe from a Psych perspective, but I am getting a little over the repetition. We haven’t personally heard the things they’re saying – it’s all second-hand info. Maybe it’s not as bad as we’ve heard, maybe it’s worse. Either way, I see no reason to dwell on it – we can’t change how those people see us without changing who we are as people, so why should we bother with what they think? Our lecturers seem to like us, and we have quite a lot of friends who don’t mind the “know it all”-ness – in fact, we’ve made several friends by being knowledgable and being able to help them understand concepts etc. So, there could be a thousand reasons for those girls saying the things they do, but it all comes down to the basis of all bullying – trying to make others feel small so you feel better in comparison. Clearly, nothing has changed since high school. I had really hoped that the bitchiness would reduce as we got older :S

In other news – Group work. FUCKING GROUP WORK.

We have this one girl in the group who is just NOT getting involved. Our presentation is happening in less than 2 weeks, so we are having to work very quickly to get it done, and she is not doing ANY work at all. She didn’t turn up to our group meeting last week, after being reminded about it only the day before and having an email about it from the previous week when we planned the meeting. I then sent an email with a summary of what we discussed in the meeting, along with the topic divisions and what we were planning on doing at the following group meeting, along with the time, date and location of the next meeting (this was sent on Thursday arvo, just after our first group meeting). She hadn’t contacted anyone in the group between Thursday and Monday, so I spoke to her when I saw her at one of our Monday lectures. SHE HADN’T EVEN READ THE EMAIL YET! Even after I’d told her on Thursday arvo (after meeting, saw her in another lecture) that there was an email about what we did in the meeting and that she should read it and get in contact with her respective topic person ASAP. Her overall approach to the topic seems to be very blasé, and she just doesn’t seem to get that the rest of the group is not going to let her get away with doing nothing and taking our mark.

I have therefore had to do the dreaded thing for a uni student – I had to tell the teacher :S
I spoke to the lecturer on Monday after our lecture about it, because as much as I want to give this girl a chance, I’m not going to let her get away with nothing just because we didn’t advise the lecturer early enough about what is happening. The lecturer was really good about it, and I said that we were trying to sort it out ourselves, but because we are presenting quite early we can’t let it go on – we need to take decisive action. The next step is that if this girl doesn’t turn up to the meeting on Thursday, we will notify the lecturer and she will help sort it out. I hope, for the sake of her marks, that she DOES turn up and do the work, but the impression I’ve gotten about her personality is that this is rather unlikely (like, pigs might fly unlikely). Yes, this is assumption along the lines of what I was complaining about earlier – but in this case, I’d say that my assumptions are actually backed up by the evidence that has already been presented (i.e. she’s late for every lecture, she didn’t read the emails, she says she’s done research but won’t give us the details of the articles, and she missed last week’s tutorial as well as the group meeting. Not a good track record).

I just find it so funny that people say “oh, group work is good preparation for working in teams in the workplace”. I call BS. Teamwork in a workplace is significantly different from group work in a uni setting. For one, generally the stakes are higher – in uni, you just get a crappy mark (it’s hardly ever enough to make you fail a course overall – and heck, you might actually do well), but in the workplace you might lose an account, or have a patient die if you cock up (or various other outcomes, many of which could result in sacking or at least disciplinary action). Therefore, there is a little more motivation to actually put in the hard work. Secondly, a team in the workplace is usually made up of people who have different areas of expertise, so each person’s role in the group is very clear, and as a general rule that expertise is respected. That is often not the case in uni group work assignments – generally, everyone is on the same level of “know nothing”, or if someone does know more they often get ignored (because of the aforementioned equivalent knowledge assumption).

Rant over. Sorry, had to vent somewhere so I don’t smack someone in the head with a textbook.

Positive from today though – I got asked if I was straight out of school. When I said how old I was and that I’d already done another degree, they were like “No way! You look far to young for that!” I will take this as a compliment 🙂 It’s always nice to hear you look younger than you are haha
Everyone is always surprised to realise that I’m married, and that revelation is usually followed by the usual “Wait – how old are you?” line of questioning. Yay for good aging genes!

Apologies for the lack of a Tutorial Tuesday post, I haven’t had time to finish the one I’ve got in drafts atm (because of STUPID GROUP WORK). It looks like there will not be a Foodie Friday post this week either, for the same reason. Hopefully I should be able to get back on track with them once the group assignment is done (yay Easter break!), but I’ll see how things go – no promises of anything at this point.




6 thoughts on “I thought I’d left high school…

  1. Put people of any age in a group larger than three and they revert back to high school behaviour. I’ve no idea why, but it always happens, like, even with people 80 and over. Maybe school sets a bad template for later social behaviour?

    Aahh, group work, the bane of academic existence. Let’s see who are this semester’s Slacky McSlacker and Panic Paula. Sounds like you already found one of those. Good luck!

  2. UGH. GROUPWORK. I understand how much this sucks. That said, I have made a good friend from doing groupwork(we had to act out a short part of a play in class). One classmate didn’t really show up or put in a ton of effort, but the other, an older lady, super cool. We hang out on occasion these days still. 🙂

    • The rest of the group is really great, I already knew one of the girls from O-Week and I’m becoming good friends with the other group members, but this one person is just DRIVING ME UP THE WALL. We had another group meeting yesterday, and she didn’t show up AGAIN. I’ve emailed the lecturer to see where we go from here, because I’ve never had to deal with someone this bad before.

  3. You habe tutorials Tuesday and Foodie Fridays!!! Need to copy that tutorials tuesday for my blog… Been thinking something similar

    Guess it isnt just in my school that people are called ‘know it all’ or some folks don’t want to work but want to get the marks.

    You sound like a strong woman, marriage and school.. Always wondered how possible it is to get around all of that.

    • I’ve been a bit slack with the posts for those lately, Uni got a bit crazy haha 🙂
      Being married and at uni isn’t really all that different from just living out of home – I’m lucky though, because Hubby is very understanding 🙂 I don’t have kids either, so that probs makes the whole thing a bit easier…

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